services.mwanzoni.com/html5-visual-quickstart-guide.php What's missing is controls to give the weaver design flexibility, such as being able to select multiple treadles at once, or being able to start in the drawdown with a picture, given a set threading. The palette needs to be more user flexible rather than having preset colors. Anybody who knows how to weave can do a limited design, save it, and set about weaving. It's a great beginning. It's got far to go. Feel free to contact me. Click URL instructions: Please provide the ad click URL, if possible: I agree to receive these communications from SourceForge.
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Watch this space:. I have Fiberworks and use it quite a bit. I've never used any other weaving software. There is a lot it can do in terms of drafting. Given that, I came to it knowing Photoshop and its amazing ease of use and have been a little frustrated by how difficult it is to import color information, maintain my own pallettes, copy and paste specific pieces of information, etc.
Also Fiberworks is somewhat buggy. In the beginning, as a former software engineer, I documented the bugs I ran into and sent them off to the Fiberworks folks. They seemed less than thrilled with the information, giving no indication when or if they would be fixed. I've been using Fiberworks PCW for a few years and chose it because a friend highly recommended it.
I first tried WinWeave and WeaveDesign both "free" and they were a great way to get acquainted with weaving software. At that time my only other experience in using a computer to help me design was with Microsoft Excel that I used to design profile drafts. It was for a while but as soon as I got comfortable with using it I upgraded to the Silver because features like block substitution and network drafting sounded really enticing.
I have to say I love it. It's true, there have been a few little bugs in the program nothing that I couldn't live with and when I reported them Ingrid was really helpful and as they are fixed there are upgrades that are free for download. I'm all for using weaving software but I'm so glad that I learned about weave structure a semester of Desiree Koslin's "Weave Construction and Analysis" class in the early 80's before learning to use a weaving program. It's so much more satisfying when you understand it. It is probably not fair to expect the same bells and whistles from small weaving software companies who sell hundreds to at most a few thousand copies a year as you would get from a large company selling millions of copies a year like Adobe.
Most of the owners work a second job or are retired from other careers. Also, there seems to be an effort to keep the programs and files small so they will run on older or smaller equipment. I understand the differences in scale of a small software company out of a house vs a corporation.
What I do expect is to have bugs taken seriously and be addressed.
Thank you all for the informative answers to my questions and the continuing discussion. I'm exploring WinWeave to begin with is that like a gateway drug? It seems a little bit of overkill to put my little waffle weave towel project into the program, but it's handy to learn on. And fun to play with too. Not having to do drawdowns by hand is soooo worth it. While I'm an intermediate weaver who's been at it for awhile, I've settled into just a few drafts a lot of plainweave to use with my handspun yarns.
I'm all about letting the yarn be the star and do the work ;. I have, however, put at least 2 more complicated projects on the New Year's Resolution list, and I'm hoping this new toy will inspire me to do more. I also think it will help me keep more and better information on my projects. Not so critical for plainweave scarves and shawls which I can eyeball, but it's always handy to look up past info. I've never found it buggy - perhaps you are looking for functionality that it does not contain.
It is a weaving program - it does excellent drafting, makes block substitutions, puts in colors, does thick and thin threads, drives computer assisted looms - and was never meant to be Photoshop. The Photoshop features you refer to are those needed for advanced simulation of fabrics. For that you need to go to something like Weavepoint or Pointcarre.
While very expensive, I'm finding Pointcarre better than Photoshop for pallettes and simulation and editing pixel graphics for weave designs.
Their system for color schemes, repeats, etc. The Pantone colors included and the A,B, C,D color design feature that allows substitutions for those letters in multiple combinations for each file is not matched anywhere else. I can do a stripe sequence in 5 or 6 variations and view them side by side on the screen. I can scan in my textured yarns and define them so that the simulation shows the textured effect in the fabric.
Weavepoint 7 has improved the simulation greatly and allows thread definition. The fabric view is shaded to look more like real fabric than just a graphed weaving draft. One thing to note about the weaving programs we've talked about here - they've been designed by weavers who understand weaving. They use the programs too! All the programs work fine - they all do one or more things the others don't necessarily do or they do something better. Since others have not run into bugs in Fiberworks, and are assuming that it must be misuse of the product, I would like to write up 3 of the most common bugs I run into and let others decide for themselves.
Editing color values — It is possible to edit the text value of colors in Fiberworks.
Deleting the value completely, however, produces an error message that the value is out of range. Typing in the value you want concatenated onto the value already there, so you can then delete the original value without running into an error also gives an out of range error, since the current value exceeds the maximum value. All this occurs whether autoapply is on or not. Using the color sliders — Occasionally when using the color value up and down buttons, the values will change, but the actual color shown and indicated by the slider has not changed. Warp repeat in the center of a design inserts and moves the rest of the design to the left.
This is fine and how it is supposed to work. Weft repeat in the center of a design overwrites the rest of the design. This is an acknowledged bug, sent in several years ago already, which generated quick response, a workaround, and no indication that it would ever be fixed. I am sorry to say all this. I believe in support for suppliers and producers of such specialized products. I also believe they should, in turn, stand behind their products. Kind of nit picky - especially with the color issues.
The program never purported to be a fabric simulator. Considering the pricing on programs that have more sophisticated color systems, I'd say that you are out of line. Industrial strength software with features that you are attempting to access costs in the thousands not the low hundreds. It's been over two years since this thread has had anything added to it. I am new to the software aspect of weaving. I would like to know what is currently the best and how to learn to use the software.
I am playing around with Weave Design right now. I would like it to be numeric like PixeLoom for the threading and treadling. Since it doesn't I don't know if I am entering the treadling and tie up correctly or upside down.
WIF 'n Proof demo is hard to try on my Nook. I can't get the Weave Maker 8. I know I could use the K-G Chart for knitting like Jason Collingwood does but it doesn't look simple enough to use for me and my drafting experience. I'm used to writing it all out on paper.
Fiberworks now has a Mac version as well as one for Windows. It has great print options, a library for block substitutions and user-defined too. Colors can be added with several shortcuts and with numbers for longer sequences, and any given color may be modified in hue or value while the draft is on the screen with colors changing. I use both Fiberworks and WeavePoint only for Windows. Each has strengths. Both are actively supported and still being upgraded. I just downloaded the demo version, because I am reviewing Marg Coe's new book "4,8, Weave DO download the trial version and see what you think.
I own Weavemaker because it was designed for MAC's, and I don't have a computer controlled loom at this time. I DO use my software for nearly every project, so it is really helpful to have something to make the process quick and easy. Not that I don't also use colored pencils and other "hardware" to design in tandem with the computer. I use several programs for various reasons, but for just plain intuitive weave design, Fiberworks is still number one. The learning curve is very short - if you already know how to weave.
There are some very nice advanced features for later, but in the beginning, there is nothing in the way of just using your mouse and keyboard to mock up what you want to make. Has anyone ever tried Patternland from Maple Hill Software? It looks like it hasn't been updated in awhile, but the color simulation is beautiful.
I used to use Fiberworks back in its early days. I switched to WeaveIt Pro several years ago, and it meets my needs. This one may not be supported or updated anymore.
I like WeaveMake better, but that's probably just what I'm used to. I believe Fiberworks allows you to do this. Changed the buttons in the Save Popup to be more understandable. To move back and forth between treadle and dobby mode, split and merge harnesses, etc. You can also import and export files for Photoshop. The continuing constant is that they're all slightly different, and all offer free trial versions. Check it out HERE.
I weave on a shaft Glimakra Standard, and an 8-shaft Ideal with combination drawloom, so I have no need for computerized loom capabilities. Like any other software purchase: Check out the manufacturer's website, download sample software if available, check out feedback from users, but also think about what your weaving needs are.
One person might have a need for excellent color design with mostly plain weave, someone else might be using the software with an AVL computerized loom. Different requirements might mean a different choice in software. What is the policy if an update happens in the next year or more?
WeavePoint lets you arrange the draft in different ways and also includes Swedish and Norwegian text. It now has an excellent double weave view and you can enter thread thickness to see a more accurate fabric view. The author lives in Oslo. I use the same programs for creating new drafts for any kind of loom. Most weavers with software use it to learn about drafts and create new drafts.
It is also a wonderful teaching tool! I am glad to have great tools like "interleave paste" and parallel sequences, warp-faced and weft-faced views, etc. I weave on AVL computer-assisted looms, so I compare the screen view during loom-control when recommending software for this use. I think out of all the weaving software available, WeaveMaker and WeavePoint are by far the most sophisticated and actually, user friendly.
These are the programs used at universities and professional design studios throughout the states. I actually find that these more powerful programs behave the most like hand written point paper, and are pretty intuitive. I use WeaveMaker myself. In addition to being a straight forward point paper format, it enables you to design quickly. To move back and forth between treadle and dobby mode, split and merge harnesses, etc.
You can create weave simulations, three dimensional interlacement drawings, and can adjust your draw down to correctly reflect the aspect ratio ie, to reflect the epi and ppi. The program has float check histograms, calculates heddles per harness, has sophisticated color tools and options for importing color libraries although you really should use actual yarns or color swatches for color work - the computer screen is rarely accurate for color.
You can also import and export files for Photoshop. WeaveMaker can export your weave as a tiff file, which is a more universal format than wiff. That means you can work with outside sources, move files into different types of software, and even interface with jacquard looms. I don't have a huge amount of experience with WeavePoint, but I know the two programs are comparable.
I like WeaveMake better, but that's probably just what I'm used to. With the professional programs, it's more about finding the one that suits your needs and is compatable with your computer. You'll want to run the softwares on an actual computer and not an ipad or something of the like. I may be running an older verison 8.
I believe Fiberworks allows you to do this. No dice. Seems crazy. I will know the color of the yarn. I DO really like the wool fabric simulation option on WeaveMaker. Does Fiberworks have something similar? It seems to work best in the range. For instance, if I am actually weaving at 30 epi, I still enter 18 into the dialog box to get a better idea of how the finished fabric will look. I think it basically "fuzzes" the color drawdown as if woven in wool, but I still find it very helpful for project planning. No, it doesn't support a PMS palette option. Unfortunately, the only software I know of that do this are industrial programs like NedGrahpics and PointCarre.
I'm still wary of using the computer to design for color. It's great for pattern layouts, etc - just so off when it comes to color. In my experience the best way to do color work is to literally twist the yarns together to see how they will interact. And there are always color blankets I'm going to get off my color soap box now ;. In WeaveMaker, I don't believe you can represent different yarn sizes in the same thread system. Could be worng, so if somebody knows how to do that please let me know.
I'd be really impressed if Fiberworks can do that - I thought that was another industrial program thing. The closest I know of to the industrial strength programs is Weavepoint. Bjorn keeps adding features that pull it in the direction of Pointcarre. The simulation in Weavepoint, if you take the time to define your yarn and sett, is quite nice.
Weavepoint7 contains many new improved features. Weavepoint also has a wonderful companion program that handles double harness weaving - showing background and pattern - thread by thread - lampas, damask, beiderwand and more - a unique piece of software. The Pantone color matching - found in Pointcarre is quite nice as are other features. And yes, I own the dobby module, the multi-layer cloth module and the scaling tool. It is fantastic. It is the only graphing software pattern generation that prints the grid over the image without taking up space.
I can design multiple colorways in the same structure, display them side by side, and pick which one works best. I can take a photo of a table with tablecloth, define the size of that table, define my sett - and place my fabric on the table to see if the pattern scale is correct - or too large, or too small. I can scan boucle yarn and have the fabric simulation reflect that scanned image in the texture. There is also quite a learning curve 3 days training in the NYC office and an annual support contract that is worth more than a standard weaving program.
This is certainly not something for a new weaver with a Baby Wolf - which puts us back with Fiberworks as an excellent program for someone just beginning to deal with weaving software. Basically, the algorithm for charting a drawdown for a weave draft is not all that complicated. It is when you start adding simulation features that weaving software becomes expensive. I was fortunate to find Pixieloom. Simple to understand for the challenged like me. It's free to try, but the print and save functions are disabled. You can get around this by doing a screen shot and printing from a graphic viewer if you really need to.
In Weavepoint, does it allow you to rearrange the view so the shafts are below and the tie-up at lower right? I'm just experimenting with the demo here, but assume everything is the same except save and print. Check the box for threading at the bottom. This also puts the tieup in the lower right hand corner.